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Re: Mass Effect 3
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2012, 08:41:44 pm »
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The elbow is always overpowered in every game.

I walk in... elbow, elbow, elbow and then death, death, death for them.

I figured. 

Right now I'm just tearing it up with warp/pull combos.  I have both maxed and they just rock enemies.  Pull will take the big shields away from those guys too.  So if anyone has problems with them, use pull. 


I like taking the Prothean squad member with.  I just like to hear what he says to everyone.  He always tells people how they were tadpoles or could barely speak when he was around.  He's all serious about it to, but it's funny to see what he says. 

Also conversations with James and other squad members is fun to listen to. 
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Re: Mass Effect 3
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2012, 08:44:12 pm »
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Ya, I've seen that one before and that's where a lot of the controversy has come into play.  We aren't sure whether that is shepard in the rubble after the citadel is destroyed or whether the whole ending is the reaper's trying to indoctrinate shepard and by "killing" the reapers shepard breaks out of their hold and he wakes back up right after being blasted on his way to the citadel.  The community is waiting on the official word from bioware and there is rumor going around about the legit ending being a DLC.

The three endings represent the three different character's choices.  Destruction is Anderson's choice (the "right" choice), control is the illusive man's choice, and synthesis is saren's choice (Saren from ME1).  You can only get the shepard lives ending by choosing the destruction option btw.

I personally think it's an awesome ending in terms of making me emotional :P  But in terms of ending this series it left way too many plot holes and the choices throughout the games have no bearing on what happens as all three endings are virtually the same (very un-bioware/un-mass effect like).

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so you should know that even with a dlc ending there will be a few spin off EA can make money with excluding the i phone game thats already out

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Re: Mass Effect 3
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2012, 08:57:39 pm »
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I like taking the Prothean squad member with.  I just like to hear what he says to everyone.  He always tells people how they were tadpoles or could barely speak when he was around.  He's all serious about it to, but it's funny to see what he says. 

Also conversations with James and other squad members is fun to listen to.

Ya, the prothean was fun to listen to :)  That's one of the main things that I like about the ME series - the ability to talk with your squadmates, learn more about them, and then in the end actually start to care for them :)

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so you should know that even with a dlc ending there will be a few spin off EA can make money with excluding the i phone game thats already out

Ya, EA's gotta find a way to make a profit out of this...:/
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Re: Mass Effect 3
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2012, 01:08:35 am »
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Man take the Prothean with Liara on the Hidden Artifact mission.  Some funny comments but actually some good story info.  More back story info revealed in that section if you explore all artifacts with a heated conversation on the ship after. 

I just found out about weapon upgrades, lol.  But they seem pretty useless anyways.  I'm not really sure how they improve the weapon.  I went from one to five so far and it seems the same.  I wish there was light weight material mods for assault rifles.  Still it doesn't matter becasue pistols and SMGs are solid killing machines.  That's all I've used for the entire game.


It weird because in cutscenes it'll show me and squad members with assault rifles and I never even loaded one into battle.  There are a handful of things like that all through the game.  Player hands are really weird too.  They are kind of deformed and unnatural at times.  There are some other things, but it's just little things imo.


I have Shockwave fully upped now.  Man I can steam roll through battles.  Warp/Pull is just beast.  Then I use Dark Matter and Stasis combos with warp, which causes very nice carnage.  But I can just do them one after the other quickly and clear the enemies fast.

Imo Pull is probably better then Singularity.  If anyone goes for Adept abilities, that is the better combo.  Singularity can be blocked fairly easy and be out of range at times.  Pull can hit 2 targets at once and can track around corners like warp.  I just find it more useful.  Shields can block both, but Pull can remove those large shields the Cerberus guys carry.  So those guys are cakewalk.  They will block Singularity and Throw.

The scatter grenades aren't all that bad.  At first I thought they were horrible because you just chuck them across the map half the time.  But if you get used to aiming them better they can be very powerful with little upgrades.  They are nothing compared to Lift Grenades that the Prothean has.  Those are just beast.  They track targets and cause massive dmg.  Plus if they don't insta kill, they lift targets in the air.  It's just an awesome weapon.



Has anyone used the knife mod for shotguns?  I was just wondering how strong it was.  I was looking at melee dmg possibilities and you can have some serious dmg increases.  Especially if you kill targets consecutively and quickly.   
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Re: Mass Effect 3
« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2012, 08:24:57 pm »
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I just finished it up.  I don't think the ending was horribly bad, but it really didn't matter what you did which is dissapointing.  Still imo Dragon Age:  Origin is still the number one game for player choices reflecting the story line and definitely the best squad combat system.  It's odd sense both are Bioware/EA games, but DA:  Origin is just awesome in those 2 areas.  I have yet to play a game that can even compete with DA:  Origins. 

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Also how did the people you chose to fight with you in the end magically get back on the ship and fly away?  I thought they were with you charging the battlefield at the end.  That really didn't fit in.  I'm not really sure why they did that. 

How do you get the 3rd ending?  I was only given 2 choices to either Destroy or Control. 


Good opinion on endings. :)  Mass Effect 3 Ending and Why We Hate It!
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Re: Mass Effect 3
« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2012, 08:56:07 pm »
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I just finished it up.  I don't think the ending was horribly bad, but it really didn't matter what you did which is dissapointing.  Still imo Dragon Age:  Origin is still the number one game for player choices reflecting the story line and definitely the best squad combat system.  It's odd sense both are Bioware/EA games, but DA:  Origin is just awesome in those 2 areas.  I have yet to play a game that can even compete with DA:  Origins. 


Haha wow.  You really burned through that in like what, three days?  What was your final effective military strength (after the 50% readiness rating decrease)?  Oh btw, you increase the readiness rating by playing the multiplayer.

I really enjoyed DAO but I think my favorite would have to be ME2 still :)

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Also, which ending did you choose and did earth get destroyed?  (earth gets destroyed if you had less than 1850 EMS)

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Also how did the people you chose to fight with you in the end magically get back on the ship and fly away?  I thought they were with you charging the battlefield at the end.  That really didn't fit in.  I'm not really sure why they did that. 

How do you get the 3rd ending?  I was only given 2 choices to either Destroy or Control. 




Good opinion on endings. :)  Mass Effect 3 Ending and Why We Hate It!


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You can only get the third ending (synthesis) if you import an ME2 character (from I can understand).

Your squadmates randomly appearing on the normandy is one of the many gripes about the ending.  Another being, why the heck was normandy even going through a mass relay as it was in the battle over earth just a minute ago :/  So that leads people to believe the indoctrination theory, which is starting to grow on me.  If it does turn out to be the indoctrination theory then bioware/EA still deserve major slaps for making the "true" ending a DLC (if they do in fact do that).

Just a random fact, but the "stargazer" at the end of the credits is voiced by Buzz Aldrin :)  I thought that was pretty cool.
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Re: Mass Effect 3
« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2012, 09:24:16 pm »
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Haha wow.  You really burned through that in like what, three days?  What was your final effective military strength (after the 50% readiness rating decrease)?  Oh btw, you increase the readiness rating by playing the multiplayer.

I really enjoyed DAO but I think my favorite would have to be ME2 still :)

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Also, which ending did you choose and did earth get destroyed?  (earth gets destroyed if you had less than 1850 EMS)

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You can only get the third ending (synthesis) if you import an ME2 character (from I can understand).

Your squadmates randomly appearing on the normandy is one of the many gripes about the ending.  Another being, why the heck was normandy even going through a mass relay as it was in the battle over earth just a minute ago :/  So that leads people to believe the indoctrination theory, which is starting to grow on me.  If it does turn out to be the indoctrination theory then bioware/EA still deserve major slaps for making the "true" ending a DLC (if they do in fact do that).

Just a random fact, but the "stargazer" at the end of the credits is voiced by Buzz Aldrin :)  I thought that was pretty cool.

LOL, I think your right on 3 days.  :)  I think I started this thread the day I got the game which was on the 14th.  I think my readiness stayed at 50%.  It didn't seem like it ever changed. 

I just loaded up and I am at 50%.  The Total Strength was 5226, but Effective was 2613.  I think I did everything possible.  My total time was 36h 29m.  That was the listed time on the last mission where you enter the Citadel.  So add about 20-30 min for that whole ending part which would be about 37h game.  You could get through it much faster if you skipped dialogue.  But yea I was putting in full days.  :P  That's when you know a game is good. 

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No Earth did not get destroyed in both Endings. 


Yea ME Series is definitely good, but as far as player choice effecting story and controlling a group, DAO beats it hands down imo.  ME has pretty good decision making, but nothing to the extreme of DAO.  I mean you can personally kill off squad members or send them to their death.  I don't think ME series went that far.


Actually I'm thinking about starting another run tonight on Insanity.  :D  I am interested in the co-op though. 
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Re: Mass Effect 3
« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2012, 09:49:39 pm »
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Initial Review:

I like a lot of games but there are only a handful that I really enjoyed and made me think while playing, "This is awesome."  ME3 joins that small group of games.  Imo it has some of the best, if not the best, fighting action sequences.  I mean they hit you with everything.  The section where you have to take the AA canon in London was just an awesome fight.  The horn shaking everything with the light blinding you while you get pounded with fire.  It was just one of the many awesome sections of the game.

The difficulty is ok.  I mean any game can be easy once your good at it and after playing a trilogy, it'll get easy.  So I'm not too disappointed in that.  The high pace action and good atmosphere makes it very fun. 

Graphically you can tell more effort was put into people.  Not saying the environment looked bad but there are many times when objects or background looked lower quality.  Sometimes you character would be invisible in a cutscene or it would look like your standing in the floor.  There were a bunch of little things like that all through the game.  Overall it's not the biggest issue and the game still looked good.

I think the sound was probably the best in ME3 out of the entire series.  You knew when Reapers were around and attacking.  It reminded me a lot of War of the Worlds.  The entire game kept using sound like they did in that movie.  It just added to the whole experience. 

The main problem I have with the game is the squad control.  I just wish there was more depth to it and better control.  They just kept a basic format the entire series which is disappointing.  I think with better squad control, it would have gave more combat options.  Sprint and cover needs to be separate buttons as well.  There were a few times when I didn't want to take cover and ended up getting killed for it.  Or I would go over a barrier into a death trap. 


Overall I really enjoyed the game.  Yea the ending could have been better, but everything prior was lots of fun.  I almost want to start with ME1 and go through the entire series to see how everything gets effected.  Now that I know they bring back all squad members it would be interesting to see how the chain of events effects the final game.  Unfortunately it won't affect the ending. 

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Re: Mass Effect 3
« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2012, 11:44:48 am »
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So far melee kind of sucks.  It's the lack of radius or movement that I have a problem with.  You get kind of locked into a straight path and if your not on target you can miss an enemy right next to you.  There is no adjusting movement in the swing once you hit attack.  So you have to be positioned perfectly.  Not only that but sprinting and attacking puts you into power up animations which suck if you miss or are in a heavy fight.

I am going to give it a chance though.  I'm only going through Mars atm so I'm interested to see how good the damage can be.  Right now it sucks.  It takes a good 5-10 hits to kill an enemy with no shield.  I am playing on Insanity so I'm sure enemies will be a tad harder to kill.

But so far I don't think you can do straight melee.  I just don't see a way to run across a battlefield and live.  You just get pounded with gun fire.  There are ways to build tank characters, but then I don't know if you can get the max melee dmg.  Plus I've heard you can only last so long regardless. 

It just doesn't look like the game is designed to do mostly melee.




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Re: Mass Effect 3
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2012, 09:46:08 am »
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If anyone wants to try some multiplayer let me know.  I did a couple public games, but people seemed to do whatever.

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Re: Mass Effect 3
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2012, 02:53:17 pm »
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Different classes have different melee attacks.  Adept has like a -5% of missing, while Vanguard has to be dead on. 


Vanguard + Shotgun + Slam + Nova + Melee = really cheap :P


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Re: Mass Effect 3
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2012, 05:28:57 pm »
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Ye I dropped my pure melee build.  The game design just wasn't meant for it.  You get locked into linear striking and can miss super easy if not directly on target.  Plus you get raped by gunfire if you try to move around.  The overall game design just wasn't meant for it.

I am still using Shotguns though, but I just found a beast weapon setup.


The Particle Rifle just destroys everything.  It's the first time I used it and it is beast.  Unlimited ammo and if you tack on Cryo Ammo, it's an unstoppable Freeze Ray.  I'm just steam rolling through Insanity now.  I wipe out groups of Cerberus like nothing.  I eat the turrets up like candy.  I'm really interested to know how other ammo types work and how strong they can be.  I would imagine very good. 

I just love Cryo Ammo because you can almost instant freeze enemies and shatter them.  I don't even have it maxed out yet.  I'm gonna get my entire team armed with it, :) .  I may drop the shotgun.  They are just so heavy and the range is horrible.  Although they are very strong.

I can one shot freeze and shatter on a second with close enemies using shotgun.  So I'm not sure what I want to do with it.  I have mostly weakening and support powers, so I'm really only attacking with guns atm.  Garrus and EDI are probably gonna be my main companions.  I had Ashely die so I got that other guy from ME1.  I'm gonna send him to the Specters and leave him there.  I never really did like him.  Plus he kind of sucks imo.

I'll have Garrus and EDI both with Overload and myself with Energy Drain, so bye bye shields.  Plus everyone will have Cryo Ammo and I'll be floating people all over the map with Pull. 


Oh btw I got the Mail Slot Achievement.  :)  Particle Rifle FTW, easiest way to get it.  Just blast it on the eye hole.  Also for the guys who carry the big shields, Pull is the ultimate weapon if you don't have a Particle Beam.  Pull will take the shield from them leaving them helpless.  You don't even need to upgrade it.





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Re: Mass Effect 3
« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2012, 02:06:42 am »
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Oh btw I got the Mail Slot Achievement.  :)  Particle Rifle FTW, easiest way to get it.  Just blast it on the eye hole.  Also for the guys who carry the big shields, Pull is the ultimate weapon if you don't have a Particle Beam.  Pull will take the shield from them leaving them helpless.  You don't even need to upgrade it.

Wait, what's this "mail slot achievement"?
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Re: Mass Effect 3
« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2012, 06:38:09 am »
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Wait, what's this "mail slot achievement"?

Get a headshot on 10 Guardians in front of them while their shield is raised.

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Re: Mass Effect 3
« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2012, 09:00:45 am »
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Get a headshot on 10 Guardians in front of them while their shield is raised.

10G (Xbox for me)

Oh ok thanks.  Guess I'll have to take a look at the achievements on origin now lol.  I completely passed them up :)
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